Well, I guess we will be able to say we did it, but not sure if we will figure out why..... we drove from phoenix all the way across the country, to chicago. yes we finally made it. Did you know that people from phoenix are not used to driving in rain. I think we saw more rain than we get in an entire year in phoenix. ok we will chalk that up for experience. Oh, by the way, we are going to be staying in a nice area just outside of downtown chicago. they tell us it is nice anyway and so far most say it is convenient; so call us and come see us. we came a long way to see all of you. until we meet.... xoxoxoxo that is from me, carrie, ps, some contact is ok but dont do that (xoxo stuff) with wayne, we would hate to have to ask you to leave..... lol